Finger injuries of all kinds...pulleys, PIP, collateral ligaments, etc.http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/list.php?2Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:17:51 -0500 Phorum 5.2.9a http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,595,595#msg-595 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,595,595#msg-595
If my pinky is extended straight and I pull with my ring finger, theres no noticeable pain, but if i keep my pinky bent and pull with my ring finger, I get a intense pain about 1 cm from the base of my ring finger.

I think its a tendon avulsion? Anyone have any other ideas as to what it may be and any sort of home treatment?]]> unkid4n FingersTue, 07 Sep 2010 17:04:35 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,592,592#msg-592 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,592,592#msg-592
Today while bouldering, I went for an open handed crimp and heard a pop inside my left forearm (non dominant hand/arm) about a quarter of the way up from my hand to elbow. A sharp pain shot up through my left ring finger.

I can close my ring finger, but it definitely feels week through my hand. I immediately iced it when I got I got home and plan on continuing ice baths every other few hours for 15 min. each. Can someone please share what they might think I did? Strained a tendon or ligament? This is my first "serious" injury.

I'm trying to decide what "Grade" finger injury listed on this website..seems like perhaps a Grade 1 or 2 or somewhere in between. Help! Thank you!]]> lovetoboulder FingersSun, 05 Sep 2010 20:14:52 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,589,589#msg-589 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,589,589#msg-589
I was climbing and heard a pop and immediately stopped. Pain was radiating through my middle finger into my hand.

The finger was still mobile with no pain associated with flexion.

I iced it and took aleve (though there was no visible swelling).

The next morning i woke up and there was no constant pain but when i tried to move my finger there was sharp pain around the a2 pulley area and the top of the middle digit of my finger (below the knuckle by the fingernail). I can not bend my finger in to make a fist.

I have already been to a hand specialist and had an xray taken and an mri done this morning. I am waiting until friday for the results of my mri.

My question is that i have been looking for symptoms of a2 pulley ruptures and have not seen an inability to move the finger or sharp pain associated only with flexion. I can passively (move my finger with my other hand) move my finger without pain.

Any ideas what may be going on and what i should be prepared for?]]> dac FingersSun, 29 Aug 2010 22:56:53 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,583,583#msg-583 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,583,583#msg-583 stro1223 FingersFri, 13 Aug 2010 22:51:53 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,579,579#msg-579 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,579,579#msg-579
So I have a few different issues with my right hands middle finger that I would like to receive some info on.

The first issue has gone relatively untreated/ignored due to it not bothering me terribly. Whenever I extend my middle knuckle into a crimp position there is movement on one side of my knuckle (opposite palm side) and my finger is restricted from fully crimping properly and feels completely 'locked up'. I have been able to climb without it bothering me due to mostly using open grip. If I press firmly on both sides of my knuckle there is pain though, however.

It is hard for me to have a good understanding of what this issue is due to other injuries that have recently been my focus on the same finger.

My A3/PIP area has been swollen for a week due to a climb that involved a powerful three finger pinch and some crimpy moves. Also my A4 was painful when pressed for a few days, but has since improved significantly due to 1 day of Ibuprofen/icing/contrast baths this week.

I plan on seeking medical attention, but don't know where to start. (x-rays/mri/etc?)

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.]]> unsure FingersTue, 10 Aug 2010 22:33:28 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,562,562#msg-562 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,562,562#msg-562
I do not know when I was injured or how (pretty sure it was climbing) but on my middle finger along the proximal phalanx and just below the middle phalanges I experience pain whenever I climb. I have full range of motion in the finger but when I apply pressure to the inside of the finger in the area I described I feel a slight raise underneath the skin that is not there when i feel my other finger. It only hurts when I either apply pressure to the inner side of the finger or when I climb. I've taken almost 2 months off and have tried climbing at times during those months, but whenever I do the finger swells up and I feel more pain.

Any help as to what I may have done or how long this may take to heal would be appreciated as I refuse to go to a doctor, because I know they will say there is no treatment.]]> gswock FingersThu, 12 Aug 2010 13:51:04 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,556,556#msg-556 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,556,556#msg-556
I was climbing on an overhung wall yesterday, and was doing a move off an under cling, when I felt something give in my ring finger, accompanied by a 'cracking' sound. I stopped climbing immediately.

Here are my symptoms:

- Mild pain initially, and continued mild soreness around the base of my ring finger today.
- Base of ring finger hurts if pressed.
- Any force against the ring finger (i.e. trying to push the finger open or grip anything) causes considerable pain.
- However, I do have the full range of motion in the finger (if no force is applied)
- Very little visible swelling or bruising.

Any advice on what I might have done, and how severe the injury is likely to be, would be really appreciated!

Should I be seeing a physio?

Thanks

Rachel]]> Rachel FingersSun, 01 Aug 2010 21:01:15 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,555,555#msg-555 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,555,555#msg-555
After a recent trip to the gym I ended up with some pain on the outside of my second knuckle. I feel the injury when making a fist but while climbing or hanging from a hangboard I do not notice any pain, the pain then later subsides after any form of activity. I also notice pain while massaging the outside of the knuckle. I was just wondering what kind of injury this is considering I have no pain while climbing.

Thanks]]> Gerberman FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 23:00:12 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,554,554#msg-554 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,554,554#msg-554
I don't want to do anything permanent from what I think was initially a minor injury but at the same time I don't want to be off climbing if there is nothing wrong. It isn't clear to me if I am going back too soon or the pain is just from scar tissue. Any diagnosis/advice appreciated.]]> robbie_scott FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 22:57:49 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,549,549#msg-549 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,549,549#msg-549
I was at the wall yesterday and whilst crimping heard a fairly loud pop/snap coming from my left ring finger. Stopped climbing immediately and grabbed an ice pack. Talking to a couple of people was highly suspicious of my A2 or C3 circumfrencial ligaments. After going home, I taped it up to restrict any movement and took ibruprofen (NSAI). It hasn't been particularily painful, more of a dull ache.

I had an x-ray (no small chips off bone) at A&E this morning and doctor manipulated finger without any real pain, suggested not climbing for a week .

But finger still feels achey and bit tender, trying a 'proper' crimp position on my desk feels a little sore and not pushing hard.

Should I just ignore it, rest up till it feels good and maybe try taping when starting back in a few weeks or get it properly checked out?

Any advice welcome....]]> iain_pi FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 22:51:34 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,547,547#msg-547 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,547,547#msg-547I am experiencing pain on palpation and on flexion of my fingers, I think my ring finger. The pain is in my palm, just above the middle, below the ring and middle fingers of my right hand. I can't feel any noticeable swelling/lumps. I climb at high level so my tendons are usually strong, and this is new to me. I'm 20.]]> crazyclimber FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 22:50:20 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,546,546#msg-546 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,546,546#msg-546I noticed a feeling of instant swelling in my left ring finger when i was climbing in feb/march time. I am still experiencing pain in my middle knuckle, especially when i push gently underneath and upwards on the left side of it, when looking at the hand palm down, the same knuckle hurts when i extend my finger and becomes more sensitive to touch if I squeeze it as i do so, it is also sensitive and especially painful to pressure exerted on the side of the finger, particularly pressure from the outer side pushing inwards toward the thumb. I am unable to fully curl my finger fully and as i get closer to the palm of my hand it grows more painful, over the months and months of no climbing my finger has not seemed to get noticeably better, i might have climbed 2 - 3 times, but only on the biggest hand jugs i could find, never for very long, and with tape. I have been to the doctor, he gave me diclofenac and it took that until i ran out of tablets, then i was given more. It did reduce the swelling and i was able to curl my finger more, but still not completely. I have stopped taking it now because i've been taking it for an extended amount of time and it has started to make me feel uncomfortable. I will return to the dosage possibly in a few weeks if needs be. I had an x-ray the other week done on my finger, and the results said everything was fine structurally. I sick of having a dodgy finger, and i've started to think it's never going to get better. I've read the information on injuries, and it sounds like a Grade 2 pulley injury to me? but it also sounds like a collateral ligament injury? Any help diagnosing will be well recieved.
Thanks from a broken fingered friend.
xx]]> Healthy Finger FingersSun, 18 Jul 2010 11:17:03 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,543,543#msg-543 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,543,543#msg-543
2 days ago, I went swimming and the next day was the first time I woke up without stiffness. Currently it is much better (pain is relatively mind) but I still feel pain while bending my fingers and exerting force to push down on something. The pain is only in the ring finger now. I have no climbed for over a week. Any guess what it can be and when I can go back and climb?]]> positivead85 FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 23:21:59 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,542,542#msg-542 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,542,542#msg-542
Right now I feel pain whenever I close my hand or stretch my fingers (I feel some pain as well at the upper end of my palm next to the injured fingers when I close my hand).

I have 2 questions:

1. Is this a type II or III pulley injury?
2. Can I do any kind of excercise which require my hand (push-ups, pull-ups, hand-stands, etc. [gymnastics oriented excercises])?

Thank you]]> Andres FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 22:49:35 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,537,537#msg-537 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,537,537#msg-537Any help to help me diagnose it would be greatly appreciated.

doesn't hurt when extending. But hurts when i stretch it back extended - pain coming from top knuckle i think
Slight pain in top knuckle (i think) when I clench my fist
Pressing from underneath moving up from the base it starts to hurt just the other side of my middle knuckle - feels like its the bone thats hurting
Hurts also pressing underneath and around my top knuckle
Pressing form the sides it hurts quite a bit pressing between my middle knuckle and my top knuckle (by my finger tip) on the left side of the finger. Does not hurt at all on the right side.

There is no swelling. Which made me think after reading on here that it is unlikely to be a stress fracture.
I thought maybe collateral ligament injury but there is no pain or at least only mild pain pressing the side of the middle knuckle. So im guessing i have damaged a couple of pulleys, but any help would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot,

Ben]]> Benthfc FingersWed, 04 Aug 2010 22:47:43 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,528,528#msg-528 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,528,528#msg-528
On january the 10th I hurt my A2 pulley of my middle finger during bouldering. A couple of days later the pain was a lot better so I went climbing again. I had some pain during climbing but the next day when I woke up I couldn't bent my finger anymore. I had a lot of pressure pain on my A2 of my middle finger
I wenty to a dokter and hed advised met 6 to 8 weeks of rest. So I started resting and using ice, I rested for 3 months and then I went climbing again. Really easy routes with low intenisty for my fingers. The next day my fingers hurted again.
I went back to the dokter and he advised a cortison injection. I got the injection and another week of rest. Then I started climbing again and after one session of relly easy routes the pain was back
Do you have any advice?]]> brecht.porrez FingersTue, 01 Jun 2010 14:44:49 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,520,520#msg-520 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,520,520#msg-520
- Mike]]> ltj999 FingersTue, 01 Jun 2010 14:36:57 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,519,519#msg-519 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,519,519#msg-519
After a week's rest, I'm wondering if I should start again. There's no bruising left, and barely any swelling. I can open and close my hand without pain, though the finger feels sore if I hang from anything besides larger edges or slopers on my fingerboard.

So...was this a Grade III injury? Or just Grade II? And I'm wondering if I should wait 'til there's no real pain before I climb again.

Thanks!]]> bjanaszek FingersSun, 23 May 2010 20:42:43 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,506,506#msg-506 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,506,506#msg-506 thenguyenloc FingersWed, 05 May 2010 09:41:26 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,490,490#msg-490 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,490,490#msg-490
I'm not sure which specialist to go to! I have a hand surgeon, so I made an appointment with him, figuring he could at least order the correct imaging studies, but would I better off with an orthopedist or even rheumatologist?]]> melissatrc FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:28:04 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,486,486#msg-486 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,486,486#msg-486The big question is, is it worth the MRI/ Bone Scan to figure it out? I am sure a few people have gone through the same debate on this one. I have insurance but it is high deductible and completely sucks, and I would likely have to pay much of the cost. However, if it is a fracture, I think it is probably worth figuring out for health and sanity. Thanks for the help in advance!]]> jth6c FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:26:05 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,478,478#msg-478 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,478,478#msg-478Thanks
J]]> J FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:12:34 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,477,477#msg-477 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,477,477#msg-477
Based on the pain in my forearm, I think it could be a pulled muscle or a pulley injury.

I love climbing and will do what it takes to rehab my hand so I can continue for the long term.

What do you think? Does it sound like a full Grade III pulley rupture or, since there is no bruising or swelling, more of a grade II?]]> gigamosh57 FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:22:30 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,476,476#msg-476 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,476,476#msg-476
I hit my ribs cage on a bolt while climbing. Despite the pain I kept on climbing and bouldering for about a month when, all of sudden while trying to grab a far object on a shelf, bam!!!
I was in pain, couldnt breath and had to go to hospital.

The diagnose was bruised rib and possibly tear of the cartilago around. I have been seing a phisiotherapist who applied, on and off for the first month, a strap around my chest to hold the rib cage in place and avoid sharp movements.
I have ben taking arnica pills and cream as well as some strong antinflammatory. Once the inflammation was gone I started to do warm applications every day. Despite 6 weeks of inactivity the pain although moderate is still there. Since a week I have started doing some excercises with a light weight to stretch the area every day.
They are doing extremely well and right after the excercise i feel the area much better.

Nevertheless i still feel light pain in the area especially when touching it, when getting in or up from bed and i am afraid of doing all range of motions that climbing involves.

After 8 weeks I started doing some light climbing and had no pain but the area feels sensible and not fully recovered. I am afraid to injure it again by doing some sharp wrong movement.

My question is: How can I speed up recovery? Is it better to wear a rib cage band while climbing? How long will it take for full recovery? Is it safe to train static at the fingerboard?

Thanks!]]> edge FingersMon, 10 May 2010 14:04:20 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,471,471#msg-471 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,471,471#msg-471Im a 20 year old from idaho and i've only climbed for 9 months... i would say i've climbed heavily since i discovered this passion, but since a tendon and pulley strain i have a concern:

2 years ago, in an accident, i cut through the tendons in the pinky and ring finger in my right hand in an horizontal slash with a knife. the cut for the pinky finger was at the second knuckle from the tip and the ring was cut near the first knuckle. both on the interior (palm side) they reattached the pinky tendon to the other tendon and they pulled the ring finger tendon through a hole that they drilled at tip of the bone on my finger and used a button to hold it. i did very well i think at physical therapy.

my right hand remains stronger i think even though it sustained the injury. the tendon and pulley strain i mentioned earlier was on the left ring finger.

my question is this: are those tendons that underwent the surgery as strong as my left? is there an impending doom placed upon thos tendons as i continue to climb harder? what can i do, eat, etc... to strengthen these and all my tendons? just putty? thanks, and i liked your mexican limestone article in climbing btw.]]> chalkjockey FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:07:06 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,467,467#msg-467 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,467,467#msg-467 mmap FingersSun, 14 Feb 2010 00:44:04 -0600 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,465,465#msg-465 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,465,465#msg-465
My index finger has lost maybe 5% ROM due to swelling but I don't have typical trigger finger or pulley damage symptoms... No loud pops, no crazy pain... which I find to be one of the oddest things. Though the finger has swollen a bit, theres no real pain in anything I do with it... I can do full stretches in either direction and even climbed once with it heavily taped and it didn't get worse.

I have been taking ibuprofen and icing it daily to try to keep it down, but it just sort of seems to float around the same amount of swelling...

Any sort of insight is appreciated....

Heres a picture of the finger and its inflammation:

[picasaweb.google.com]

Thanks in Advance

-Daniel]]> unkid4n FingersFri, 02 Apr 2010 14:10:17 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,461,461#msg-461 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,461,461#msg-461 ozren FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 14:46:12 -0500 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,447,447#msg-447 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,447,447#msg-447
Fingers: Serious inflammation in the second joints down from the fingertips in my ring and middle fingers. They really hurt the next following hard sport or bouldering – especially crimps. The fingers become somewhat hard to curl. They are tender when I lightly squeeze the outside of the joints (just to test them for pain). And, my ring finger joints hurt when I extend my fingers straight out. Plus, osteoarthritis on the outside (pinky side) on both of my first joints down from the fingertips on the ring fingers. The doc told me to try NSAID's and that should cure them of the inflammation and possibly the osteoarthritis.

Elbows: This one was hard for me to nail down because my elbows don't hurt on the medial and laterals like most climbers. My pain in on the inside of both elbows next to and kind of behind my biceps. When really pissed off the pain extends to the outside of my arm, moving diagonally up (see pic). The doc had no doubts that it is Brachial Tendonitis.

[picasaweb.google.com]

So now I have an appt to see a PT for my elbows. I will ask them about my fingers as well.

I have been taking mega doses of Ibuprofen for the past 5 days and haven't climbed for about 1 1/2 weeks. I don't like the idea of using NSAID's but am willing to try them for a short amount of time to reduce inflammation. The pain in my knuckles has pretty much gone away so something is working but, I am skeptical what will happen once I start climbing again.

Has anyone else dealt with these same problems (fingers and/or elbows)?]]> mtengaio FingersTue, 26 Jan 2010 12:35:06 -0600 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,432,432#msg-432 http://climbinginjuries.com/forums/read.php?2,432,432#msg-432
Today is second day of my finger saga and now I am unable to curl my left index finger. It starts hurting substantially. The pain seems to be coming from the A2,C1 area. Yesterday was when I got hurt and I posted it here [climbinginjuries.com]

There is no swelling or redness anywhere on the finger far as I can tell by looking at it. I am able to type on keyboard just fine. I squeeze that finger in all places using my right hand and there is no pain. If I dont curl there is no pain.

Please help...

Hasan]]> hasan FingersThu, 01 Apr 2010 15:07:55 -0500